The War which is Far from over

[Agnii]

As we slowly return to normalcy following the declaration of Ceasefire, a pressing question still lingers... Is it truly over or is this the beginning of something far greater?

USA, who just brushed aside saying "none of our business" appeared suddenly and declared, 'Hey guys, Enough is enough... return to your bases'

But why? What changed so dramatically in just 24 hours?

This was never about India vs Pakistan, was it? Despite the countless differences between Ind and Pak, the one thing we have in common is.... There is nothing indigenous... While Western countries outsource trivial or repetitive tasks, we have outsourced something fundamental.... The core defense and security... 'we trust you guys, we know you would save us'

This is not an India and Pakistan conflict... Chinese armoury Versus Americans French or Israel's ... And perhaps, LOC just the testing grounds...

Was the Rafale truly lost in combat.. a first of its kind? Something so unprecedented that it sent shockwaves across the world, making even the “most powerful man in the world (so-called)” to rush to his Twitter account?

Why the sudden urgency to cease? Perhaps it was a move to prevent further vulnerabilities from being exposed??
And now what? They work on it and maybe one fine day in future, another insurgency? only to launch another round of testing ?

Isnt it the hightime for us to stop this outsourcing business and use brains? Maybe for starters, the remuneration of scientists could be on par with incentives that a salesman gets? We understand your budget for Defense, but would you please stop this blind outsourcing and rather develop in-house... Show your intolerance to the heavy reliance on others to save us and truly, we will call you a Hero! We assure you that you wouldn't need manipulations from news channels then...

We can only hope that it isnt too late

 

[aaa2zzz]

Other countries are moving towards peace, advancements, opportunities except few war zone countries. We are going nowhere,only rich is getting richer, poor is getting poorer.

 

[ex.prince]

As we slowly return to normalcy following the declaration of Ceasefire, a pressing question still lingers... Is it truly over or is this the beginning of something far greater?

USA, who just brushed aside saying "none of our business" appeared suddenly and declared, 'Hey guys, Enough is enough... return to your bases'

But why? What changed so dramatically in just 24 hours?

This was never about India vs Pakistan, was it? Despite the countless differences between Ind and Pak, the one thing we have in common is.... There is nothing indigenous... While Western countries outsource trivial or repetitive tasks, we have outsourced something fundamental.... The core defense and security... 'we trust you guys, we know you would save us'

This is not an India and Pakistan conflict... Chinese armoury Versus Americans French or Israel's ... And perhaps, LOC just the testing grounds...

Was the Rafale truly lost in combat.. a first of its kind? Something so unprecedented that it sent shockwaves across the world, making even the “most powerful man in the world (so-called)” to rush to his Twitter account?

Why the sudden urgency to cease? Perhaps it was a move to prevent further vulnerabilities from being exposed??
And now what? They work on it and maybe one fine day in future, another insurgency? only to launch another round of testing ?

Isnt it the hightime for us to stop this outsourcing business and use brains? Maybe for starters, the remuneration of scientists could be on par with incentives that a salesman gets? We understand your budget for Defense, but would you please stop this blind outsourcing and rather develop in-house... Show your intolerance to the heavy reliance on others to save us and truly, we will call you a Hero! We assure you that you wouldn't need manipulations from news channels then...

We can only hope that it isnt too late

You’ve said what many think but rarely articulate — this wasn’t about borders; it was about control. About whose weapons get tested, whose influence stretches further, and whose industries profit from our insecurity.

The truth is, when nations outsource security, they outsource sovereignty. We've built armies with foreign blueprints, placed our survival in someone else’s hands, and then act surprised when the ceasefires feel scripted.

It’s no longer about “us vs them” it's “them vs their market share,” and we're just the arena.

You’re right it’s high time we stopped applauding symbolic strength and started investing in real, homegrown capability. That means funding scientists like we fund war games. It means building, not borrowing. And most importantly, it means asking: Are we truly free if we can’t defend ourselves without help?

Let’s hope we wake up before the next "test."

 

[Picasso]

Behind every border drawn in blood, there’s a silent war for money, power, and control. Nations don’t just fight over land, they fight over who gets to rule the future.

 

[Balan72]

There is nothing indigenous... While Western countries outsource trivial or repetitive tasks, we have outsourced something fundamental.... The core defense and security...

Sorry Sir. Much of our defence security is indigenous or absorbed and integrated into our already developed indigenous defence system. Thats a sweeping statement trashing the entire DRDO. Yes we have heavily invested in importing advanced fighter jets for strengthening our air power. Yes we have bought air defence shields S400 from Russia besides the array of air defence systems we have deployed. We have developed our own aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines.

Now why the western media rush to stop the war or stop even the verified / verifiable damage? because it is their products that is getting exposed. The supremacy of Bhrahmos rendering their (Pakistan's) bought out air defence mechanism penetrating and trashing even in the alert expected time will affect their business. The boasted up facade will fall like the house of cards. So rushing to protect their business.

Let's not mix up things and discuss the issue at hand.

 

[Agnii]

Sorry Sir. Much of our defence security is indigenous or absorbed and integrated into our already developed indigenous defence system. Thats a sweeping statement trashing the entire DRDO. Yes we have heavily invested in importing advanced fighter jets for strengthening our air power. Yes we have bought air defence shields S400 from Russia besides the array of air defence systems we have deployed. We have developed our own aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines.

Now why the western media rush to stop the war or stop even the verified / verifiable damage? because it is their products that is getting exposed. The supremacy of Bhrahmos rendering their (Pakistan's) bought out air defence mechanism penetrating and trashing even in the alert expected time will affect their business. The boasted up facade will fall like the house of cards. So rushing to protect their business.

Let's not mix up things and discuss the issue at hand.

My statement was a comparison between the capabilities of India and China... There is nothing indigenous means, we are nothing infront of Chinese capabilities...
it is not trashing the DRDO but the govt which is not funding its own scientists enough... Ofcourse there is a progress in indigenous defense, but it isn't enough when you compare to the real enemy... He is flying and v r crawling...
Before Pahalgam there were talks on Apple shifting it's manufacturing from China to India and the President didn't utter a word... After the ceasefire the President is asking Apple not to go India...
The big war is building up... I don't know if you feel it or not but I do... If you think Brahmos is enough, India will do a rockstar performance as the (Indian) media claims, then yea... Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion...

As far as mine is concerned, it is hightime we stop this heavy reliance on others and build our homegrown... In a much much bigger way...

Otherwise ppl will call their shots... When to attack you and when to stop you from retaliating... They jus tweet and you should shut the doors

 

[Balan72]

There is nothing indigenous means, we are nothing infront of Chinese capabilities...

On the contrary, it was the chinese equipments that got exposed. India didn't even crossed the borders but from across the borders the indian jets did not only pierced into Pakistan territory but also deceived the mighty capable chinese air shields and precisely destroyed all the targets.

Besides, what is concerning the chinese is their heavy investment in Balochistan via gilgit baltistan Chinese investment corridor connecting to plunder the mineral wealth of the impoverished Balochistan. Now they are escallating their freedom struggle. They got their independence on 11th August 1947 from Britain, betrayed, encroached in 1948 and were struggling since then for 70 plus years. Now all of the chinese investments will go poof.

it is hightime we stop this heavy reliance on others and build our homegrown... In a much much bigger way...

Yesss who wouldn't want to be self reliant.
Every challenge the west has been throwing at india, be it GPS, or cryogenic or nuclear capabilities or super computers or anything, we are accomplishing it with our own capabilities. Building a strong self reliant sustaining defence is the way to go and we will go.

The world will witness india becoming self reliant and strong economy in the medium and long run, Pakistan getting demilitarised and disintegrated into 4 or 5 nations in the near future.

 

[Agnii]

Again, we are just giving our opinions... None of us know the fact whether the US were shocked of Chinese strength or Indians'... But either way, we got to know about the Ceasefire from leader of some other nation and not ours, which is a worrying sign in itself

 

[Balan72]

From our valuable intellectual asset - Homi baba getting eliminated along with 100 odd passengers for stopping this nation from becoming self reliant, from the Prime minister of this country poisoned and brought home as corpse, and with internally loving to betray and backstabbing their motherland crowd, to a position to our diplomat going into their own territories and speak in a language exposing their hypocrisy and double standards openly and in accepting this ceasefire with a clause IS indeed an achievement.

Not far away when asked about the strength of our defence capabilities and upgradation, our then defence minster shri AK Antony told in his admission in parliament that we are poor nation, cannot afford F16s let alone Raphael. Attempts were made to sabotage india's air defence modernisations by the anti national liberando & Co with the help of their trusted agents and got hammered by the otherwise betraying learned supreme court. Thats history. Yes long way we came through and still a long way to go.

Our pride is not complete keeping 70% of people poor. Thats a matter of shame still. Yes loooong way to go.

 

[aaa2zzz]

Again, we are just giving our opinions... None of us know the fact whether the US were shocked of Chinese strength or Indians'... But either way, we got to know about the Ceasefire from leader of some other nation and not ours, which is a worrying sign in itself

Both Nations asked to stop the war since both of them are having atomic weapons, it's not safe for anyone. Hence ahead of Gulf visit of Trump , USA asked to stop the war as most of Arab countries were supporting Pakistan Considering economic conditions of US and India. We were loosing around 3000 crores in a day.

 

[Agnii]

Both Nations asked to stop the war since both of them are having atomic weapons, it's not safe for anyone. Hence ahead of Gulf visit of Trump , USA asked to stop the war as most of Arab countries were supporting Pakistan Considering economic conditions of US and India. We were loosing around 3000 crores in a day.

Nuclear war ellam media hype...

 

[Balan72]

as most of Arab countries were supporting Pakistan

Can we have the list? Becoz none of the islamic world is now supporting Pakistan fyki. Who is the motherland of islam? kingdom of Saudi Arabia. They have ditched Pakistan. Who else? Their competitor caliphate Turkey? And azarbeijan, is it even worth counting?

Considering economic conditions of US and India.

Haaii. US economy may be in doll drums becoz or the previous governments spending spree and their limitless borrowing printing. Whats bad about india's economic condition? 7+ percentage growth? Perhaps! .

Pakistan has gone to IMF begging for 2.3 billion usd. Thats thenga chutney karuvappillai expense for Indian government's revenue. Pakistan sympathisers reserve your emotions for now. You may need when that is demilitarised and disintegrated into 4 or 5 pieces. Balochistan, Sindhu desh, Pakthoonistan, Gilgit Baltistan will be taken over by India in some time. Thats PoK now, the local PoK people are conducting rallys pro india and the Pakistani Punjab alone is left. Relax. We will all watch it die peacefully.

And wait. Pakistan a nuclear power?!?. What kind of a joke it is? Our retaliation will not only harm the humans there, it competely wipes off all life forms including the mosquitoes. It takes 800 years for a blade of grass to dare again above the surface. And those dumb ulema gernals (thats how they call their Generals in pakthoon urdu) know this fact. Peace.